Curse

Kago Seirei · Oct 19, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

I've met plenty of jerks, being me of course. But there was one imparticular who was a jerk to me, who didn't know who I was, it was sorta' outta the blue. I got a new account, and made a character by the name of Rose Thorn, which my friend recommended to me. Apparently, this name used to be taken by someone else who did something bad, but soon after I created her. I get this whisper saying "How could you do that to her?" I'm like "What did I do? Who're you?" They're like "You know what you did and who I am." I'm sitting there with a blank "Uhm, I think you have me mistaken for someone else, I just made this char." Blahblah has ignored you. -.-'''

John Waffletord · Oct 19, 2005, 04:42 PM // 16:42

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Originally Posted by MuKen

Now I agree that he was pretty ridiculous to care if you were running in circles around him, but still, knowing that, this story is actually about you being a jerk. It's like if you keep making faces at a six-year old who doesn't like it, is the kid the jerk or are you the jerk?

Maybe i was a jerk, but it was damn funny, so why would i stop?

Charcoal Ann · Oct 19, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

i've seen numerous threads on this. generally the plan is to Unyielding Aura them and drop it as soon as the asshattery begins again.
course if you don't bring Aura (i know i don't) then leaving them for dead is fine.

personally i would simply have ignored him. let him be a jerk. he'll get his punishment someday. and it will be a lot more serious punishment than not being ressed in a game.

snapp · Oct 19, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by Elistan Theocrat

The question is, does refusing to res him after his disrespect to me make me a jerk? Keep in mind we did fine without him.

lol you're not a Jerk, sometimes they deserve it.

I was doing infusion + mission once with some guildies and we invited some players to join us...of course we got the trademark W/Mo that you always hear about on this forum. As soon as we entered mission he told us "ok you just follow me and do as I say and everything will be ok"

He then runs off and starts aggroing everything in sight and dies, we rez him and let him know what a great job he is doing and he takes off again and aggroes some more dieing again...so our monk (has a very short temper)..gives him the lecture about not wasting our time and staying with the group, the guild players in the party were in a voice conference in yahoo messenger...so our self appointed leader runs ahead and dies and the monk on voice says "watch this"...we see the warrior get rezzed and then we hear "OMFG some NOOB cast vengeance on me!!!11!"...suffice to say we were laughing to hard to reply and 30 seconds later he dropped in mid stride, he then said he would play properly if we rezzed him, which we did and everytime he did something stupid our monk would cast vengeance on him and we would laugh at him. I guess we were jerks...especially when he asked why we keep casting vengeance on him and monk said "it makes us laugh".

PS don't ask me why monk was carrying vengeance...maybe he had a premonition.

Sanji · Oct 19, 2005, 07:25 PM // 19:25

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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann

i've seen numerous threads on this. generally the plan is to Unyielding Aura them and drop it as soon as the asshattery begins again.
course if you don't bring Aura (i know i don't) then leaving them for dead is fine.

personally i would simply have ignored him. let him be a jerk. he'll get his punishment someday. and it will be a lot more serious punishment than not being ressed in a game.

I don't think taking a bad skill (a bad Elite and bad Rez skill, no less) is a great idea, even if it means paying back asshat players.

Aniewiel · Oct 19, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

The thing is that, like children, people will never learn to either 1) behave themselves; or 2) -how- to play the game unless they are taught. If you had res'd and healed him and he had kept on the way he was, he has learned nothing. We're supposed to learn from our mistakes, not just keep making them.

If you were even-handed in the way you spoke to him, trying to make a point from which he could actually learn, then you were not a jerk. If you were rude and condescending and took yourself to his level, well...then the moniker might fit.

Dwiggit · Oct 19, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46

You were fully in your rights to leave him. You gave him a chance to work with the team. You even put up with with his verbal abuse. He was asking for it. So don't feel bad at all.

But......

I have been in a few situations that the Monk decides to control the party. Being as it is very hard to find a Monk for COOP missions, some make the game less enjoyable by saying things like: "I'll only go if you do X,Y, & Z on the mission.", "The Necro MUST be a battery to charge me, otherwise I'm leaving.", The elementalist MUST bring skills X,Y, &Z, or I'm out!". Or while in the mission, after already agreeing to do bonus, "Skip bonus or I'm leaving!".

It's just the attitude of almighty divine favor that bugs me. Do it his way or ELSE!

Oh well, /rant off

Dwig

calamitykell · Oct 19, 2005, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Lag Hell

btw, its a game, nothing done or said can do harm...

So very very wrong, unfortunately.

In regards to OP, don't worry. I would've done the same thing, and I'm sure most people would.

Teufel Eldritch · Oct 19, 2005, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by dansamy

I look at it this way. If that one moron is soaking up all my energy and not listening, I am not effective at healing the rest of the party. So if he died, I'd leave him dead. If he asked why I left him dead, I'd be honest. You are a moron who cannot follow directions and you are wasting my energy. Now, I have fewer people to heal and more energy to do it.

My thoughts EXACTLY! It's simply a matter of triage.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Oct 19, 2005, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Ah, there's a big correlation between morons and jerks. A lot of jerks are that way simply because they're just not smart enough to grasp certain things so they act like a jerk simply because they don't know they're acting like a jerk... or they act that way to cover up something stupid they've done.

It's like in one instance where some Monk called me a noob runner because I would keep moving out of his Balth's Aura and Zealot's Fire. So was he a moron or a jerk? I have no idea... I'm guessing both.

Unik · Oct 19, 2005, 10:33 PM // 22:33

"FRGET THE GULDEY FOOKER!"

This as got to be the best one by far, I almost pissed myself reading that one. Hey it made me hope to encounter one like that just for the laugh.

The Leeroy Jenkins of insults.

Unik

heist23 · Oct 19, 2005, 10:44 PM // 22:44

i remember once i was visiting hero's audience to switch my R/Me back to R/Mo...i was wearing my 15k druid's armor when i notice that a multi-colored monk (male avatar) starts stalking me wherever i go. i PM him, asking him why he's following me.

...silence....

so i ask him to stop following me (it was seriously creeping me out). more silence, so i hurriedly switch over to comp arenas to finish my build.

these guys creep me out. suffice to say, that's the reason why i wear drok's studded leather...

another story dealing with the skimpiness of my 15k druids:
i was playing in comp arenas and managed to find a good, balanced group. i noticed that the mes on our team was following me wherever i went. i ignored this and continued sticking arrows into the enemy casters....

he eventually died. i used my signet to res him, and he said, "thanks babe"

i thought for a moment, then ignored it. we won the match and loaded up the next map. he said something derogatory about my armor...something along the lines of "you're so hot and sexy...i want to **** you so hard". so, i promptly told him to **** off...he said "lol when you say that i just get hornier". our team lost that round, so he decided to say "thanks babe maybe you can strip for me later".

i got disgusted and put him on my ignore list.

i wonder how he'd feel if he realized he was hitting on a male?

(this wasn't really a jerk story, but it was annoying nonetheless...)

Sofonisba · Oct 19, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

heist, about the guy following you… it would probably annoy the crap out of me too.

However, I hate to say it, armor is still a novelty to some. So many times, I’ll be on TS with my guildies and someone will see some kickass 15k/Fissure/well-dyed armor in a city and we’ll all want to see it too and go running over, sometimes following the person to get a good look. I’m sure if they are paying attention it would creep them out to see a whole party of guildies running after them. (And I’m also sure, if they asked us to get lost, we probably would!)

Mistress Develion · Oct 20, 2005, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

Personally, I can't stand leeches.

If I see one solitary green dot at the rez point I usually announce, "Sry folks, I can't stand leeches. If that guy is leeching back there I'm quitting and starting over. Y'all are welcome to join up in district 1. If he doesn't show up in 30 seconds I'm outta here."

It's a good threat since I'm usually the monk of the group. Half the time the guy "miraculously" comes back and says, "sry I had to get something." (yeah, right)

sometimes its not their fault though.. Like when i zone.. i lag.. and have noticed that sometimes its a good 45 seconds before i can A. see my toon B. Move C. type an answer. so sometimes.. a lil patience is in order

Gaius Romulus · Oct 20, 2005, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Well I recently had my account suspended because this guy got mad at me for kicking him out of my guild reported me for offensive behavior. Now I can't play for a week. BTW if anyone can help me out with this problem please tell me how I can fix this.

heist23 · Oct 20, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Sofonisba

heist, about the guy following you… it would probably annoy the crap out of me too.

However, I hate to say it, armor is still a novelty to some. So many times, I’ll be on TS with my guildies and someone will see some kickass 15k/Fissure/well-dyed armor in a city and we’ll all want to see it too and go running over, sometimes following the person to get a good look. I’m sure if they are paying attention it would creep them out to see a whole party of guildies running after them. (And I’m also sure, if they asked us to get lost, we probably would!)

heh, you're right.

maybe that guy was trying to get a good look at my armor, but due to the lack of clothing on the 15k druid's i doubt it was just to get a look at the armor.

and that still doesn't excuse what that other guy did to me....*shudders*

Echo Flanger · Oct 20, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Couple funny ones....

Today i was buying/selling black dyes. Some guy says "Selling black dye 6K" in public so im like... cool I can make a thousand or so off that. "Sure I'll buy"

Open trade window.
I put 6K up and submit offer
He submits offer... of VIAL OF INK
"accept"
"Thats a vial of ink"
he closes trade
"selling black dye 6K'

HAHAHA it was pretty funny/hes lame but yeah. Also some guy was playing for 5K with me yesterday in rock paper scissors... i beat him and he goes "I only have 881" i said... well nobody is going to play you until you pay me 5k. He logs on another account and goes
"Can i play now i havew 1K"
"You owe me 5K before you play
"No ill play for 1K i have it now"
So we ignor ehim... he keeps asking everyone for games... 5 mins later i said "I bet this kids like 10"
"I am 10"
"HAHAHA i should have sidebet 20K that the kid is 10"
"I am 10"
".... Yeah bye."

LOL dang 10 year olds. So yeah that was some funny stuff...

Wilheim Eversmann · Oct 20, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

i have just met a jerk too~
when i am in droks just want to trade one of my ecto for a gold bow (coz i love bows) then a jerk PM me....

jerk: i got a nice one for you

me: cool~ at storage

after i opened the trade window (i saw a NICE gold short bow with (req13) dmg+12 in stance and armor+5 vs physical)

me: sry no thx

jerk: oh u wanna get a godly bow by that ecto?? that's what for you

me: do i have the right to say no?? i don't wanna trade a short bow with req13...

jerk: you sux, ecto worth 8K only (lol) and this worth more than that, you ----ing noobs.

me: ...sry no thx and stop it

jerK: fine, just keep your SINGLE ecto and keep it in you pocket! i dun care, i have 500+ ecto and you got 1 only, lol, save it then, i just wanna help you and you are the biggest noob that wont let someone helps you, good luck with your ONLY ecto and not to drop it!

me: i didn't say i have 1 ecto only, would you just shut up and show your 500+ ecto to your mama? (i love to fight with those jerks and ignore them^^)

Elistan Theocrat · Oct 20, 2005, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Thanks to all who replied to me, I felt I was justifed as I had not started by being a jerk at all. In fact the only people that I am immediately jerks with are people who bring elites/droks and other shit that doesnt belong in the ascalon/shiverpeak arenas and then talk about what great players/how talented they are.... those I dont mind lowering the boom on. (so to speak)

I try not to be a jerk though, we're all here to have fun right?

Someone raised the interesting question of wether or not monks are natural leaders. I'll be the first to say not always. I like to think i'm a fairly capable Monk as i've been playing that class longer than any, and my monk has the skills for monk/mesmer/warrior and necro unlocked. But I've not actually done much in SF yet, so when I go there I'll not try to lead, just try to keep them apprised on my energy status, leaving the leading for folks who've been there before. I'll try to lead where I've been if i'm not feeling lazy

I dont think there are natural leader classes, but maybe natural leader players. Theoretically at least, any class could lead a PUG if the player knows what they are about. In practice, I've given up trying to lead any group thru any mission as my Mesmer or Ranger primaries, those classes just get no respect from the noobs.

Pevil Lihatuh · Oct 20, 2005, 08:46 AM // 08:46

lol i found some jerks in War Camp last night.

Usually I have Local Chat off since I can't stand all the LFG, WANT A RUNNER, WTS, WTB spam. But I saw someone near me say something about 'noob' so I turned it on.

Him and someone else were arguing about axe max dmg.

Jerk 1 kept repeating things along the lines of: HAHA JERK 2 THINKS MAX AXE DMG IS 16 - 28!!! HOW MANY NOOBS CAN TELL HIM MAX AXE DMG?!!!1
Jerk 2 keeps repeating things along the lines of: OMG STFU YOU NOOB. NO ONE CARES

After about 5 mins, just before I'm gonna leave to go to GF, I pipe up with "How many noobs actually want to listen to these two morons arguing about axe damage?" and left.